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Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  4 Jun 93       Volume 11 : Issue 114

Today's Topics:

      (Q) Excel FFT function add-in: how to use
      (Q) Notification Manager/Faceless Background Application Source Code
      32-bit addressing
      32 bit addressing
      Adding keyboard cmd equivalent (A)
      Adobe Type Reunion Slows Mac to a Crawl? (R)
      A matter of interpretation (c)
      archie client, a rejoinder
      Author of Flash It
      Best Graphics, Mac or pc
      Company/DAT
      CopyDoubler
      correction...
      Eudora Questions - scripts and Date field
      folder-from-hell (A)
      Gnu zip (.z) file - unzip on Mac? (A)
      how to print to PS file without header
      Info-Macs
      Info-Mac Vol II
      Is it safe to optimize an AppleShare volume?
      Lost color desktop patterns.
      LW8 change defaults
      LW IIg and MASS 45mb HD ?
      Macintosh Clock Speeds (refresher)
      MAC TCP/IP Ping source code
      MAXA Alert
      Microsoft's Market Flood
      My Computer Forgets Folder Settings (Q)
      New Info-Mac archive layout [Was: [*] new-look-21.hqx]
      Passive and Active Terminators(A)
      PCPC Whereabouts
      Performa Plus Display
      PICTs in teachtext (ext)
      PICTs in teacktext
      postscript problems
      Powerbook 170 Display Problem
      Rodime drive owners please help.
      SpeedyFinder7 1.5.4 (A)
      Stacker 1.0 for the Mac
      subscribing
      System 7 Notification
      Tarski and book
      Techworks IIsi Ethernet Cards (Q)
      Times-Two: worse than you think! (R)
      Vm/Cms, Bitnet & Sumex
      White House Letter to the Internet

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 10:18:05 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bill Christens-Barry)
Subject: (Q) Excel FFT function add-in: how to use

I've downloaded, de-binhexed, and tried to use an Excel function stored as
'excel-fft.hqx' in the info-mac/app folder at sumex.  This is a freeware
item copyrighted in 1992 by David Palmer that allows FFTs on complex or
real data stored in one or two columns of an Excel spreadsheet.

I haven't been able to use it successfully with Excel 4.0 and wonder if
anyone could give me a little guidance.  When I follow the directions in the
readme file it's a no-can-do, as indicated by '#name' error messages in each
of the cells in which the FFT function was entered.  I suspect that I haven't
'added in' this function correctly but haven't discovered how to do it
correctly.  I believe I've carefully adhered to the directions for its use,
but not being a frequent user of Excel, I may not be doing something that
might be obvious to more experienced Excel sufferers.

So, can anyone enlighten me?  An email address for the author (David Palmer)
would be a useful alternative.  Thanks...


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Date: Fri,  4 Jun 93 17:13:33 PDT
From: Deepak Seth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q) Notification Manager/Faceless Background Application Source Code

Hi,

I am trying to write a Face-less background application using Think C
5.0.4.  I am looking for some example source code on how to use the
notification manager in this application.  Can some one send me some
examples source code?  If you can point me to an anonymous ftp site,
that would be fine.

thanks,
Deepak Seth

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 93 07:11:20 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32-bit addressing

Last night I wanted to know how much RAM can be accessed with 32-bit
addressing as well as the related info of how much RAM is accessed
with each address. Bill Lipa of Info-Mac fame replid:

>2 to the 32nd power, or 4Gb. Each increment addresses the next byte.
>
>Bill

Forgive me if I'm being brain-dead, but what sort of addressing was
used before? Do I remember correctly that 8 megabytes was an
artificial ceiling (or was that 4 megabytes in the 68000 Macs?)
Thanks, Pete Tamas

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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 93 23:39:33 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32 bit addressing

One of the interesting things about teaching is that you often question
what you know or often wish you understood something better. Tonight, I
was explaining 32-bit addressing. I was asked what type of addressing was
used prior to that. 8-bit? 24 bit? Then I realized I also did not know
what the maximum theoretical limit of RAM that can be addressed with 32
bit addressing nor did I know the closely related fact of how much memory
is being accessed by each address. If anyone knows, I'm sure we'd all
find the answers interesting.-Pete Tamas
[e-mail], Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 12:12:16 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Adding keyboard cmd equivalent (A)

    Theoretically I have a method that works. When I tried it on one old
(Medit) program, program crashed. I don't know what crazy things can happen
when you are monkeying with the finder and you crash, so here are a paranoid's
precautions.
    Make copy of nofinder to experiment with.
    Back up your system hard drive and know that you can rebuild it without
paying for new proprietary init installation, etc.
    Unmount all other hard drives.
    Run resedit and open program, here NoFinder. Look for menu resources.
Double click on them to open the menu that contains the menu item,
Terminate Process.
    Click on menu item and then click on command key text box and type key you
want (distinct from all others in application and global, etc.).
    Now, as in finder, command option w will close all resedit windows(except
the final one). Click on the close box and it will cross examine you on
whether
you want to save changes. Quit resedit.
    Try out the copy.
    Now, if you are lazy and want a perenial excuse not to be creative,
think like others have thought about dribbling water fountains:"If an
improvement could have been made easily without calling an expensive plumber
then administration would have taken care of it." Then add, for devastating
effect, "I am just a humble man"(that will stop others in their attempts.
If, instead, you wish to squelch other's squelches, ask the squelcher
how come Ricardo Batista didn't put in binary search in extension's manager?
If they are smart they will defend, no one man can think of anything and
you have them right there with inspiration by Freeman Dyson.

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Date: 3 Jun 93 17:36:32
From: sceard!newline![e-mail] (Steve Edwards)
Subject: Adobe Type Reunion Slows Mac to a Crawl? (R)

[e-mail] writes:

>|>panels. I eventually narrowed it down to Adobe Type Reunion. With it
>|>installed, everything was draggy as hereinbefore detailed. Without i,

I saw similar behaviour about a year ago. The "Type Reunion Data" file
had grown to 10mb! I trashed the file and restarted. ATR created a new
file and all was well.


 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Edwards      Internet: [e-mail]      Voice: [phone]
Newline               CompuServe: 73677,3561           Fax: [phone]

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1993 17:43:30 +1200
From: "matt n." <[e-mail]>
Subject: A matter of interpretation (c)

There has been some debate over a TidBITs article concerning MIDI,
to wit that:

>The last quoted sentence states that the Mac is the
>"professional's computer of choice".  This is a matter of opinion
>only.

Well, I've got two siblings, they are both professional musicians,
and they both do their MIDIing with a Mac. Furthermore, they are the
only professional musicians that I know. Therefore...!!! :-) m.
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 13:02:11 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: archie client, a rejoinder

    Yesterday I saw what I think was called xarchie,an xwindows client.
as Adam Engst wished:
>...combined the features of archie and Fetch...
>search via archie, and then double click on the file to retrieve it.
    Wow!

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 10:41:07 -0400
From: [e-mail] (spencer)
Subject: Author of Flash It

Hi,

I'd like to register my copy of Flash It, a CDEV that lets you capture
portions of the screen to the clipboard etc.

I tried contacting the author, Nobu Toge with the address supplied but
didn't have any luck.

If anyone knows his present address and could pass it along to me, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks,

Spencer Marks

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 13:22:22 -0400
From: [e-mail] (John Violette)
Subject: Best Graphics, Mac or pc

Info-Mac,
A freind of mine wants to know which has the better graphics, Mac or PC?  He
is s
trying to avoid something that is too "Mickey Mousey".  He ask questions like
"If I were to draw a diagonal line, would it be straight or stair-stepped?"
His price range would be in the Performa 400 range and I don't know much about
either platform (Mac/PC) and would greatly appreciate any help you can give.
Please respond to me directly.  Thanks in advance.

John <><

[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 2:47:28 EDT
From: J. Warner Soditus <[e-mail]>
Subject: Company/DAT

I was wondering if anyone saw the ad on page 310 of the
new Mac User mag.  Has anyone heard anything about or dealt with
this company (mac sale international)?
Also, they advertise a DAT, cheap.  Anyone ever heard of a:
EMAC DAT Drive 2.0G w/REtrospect

 This sounds like what I've seen advertised elsewhere for
 around $200 more.  Too good to be true?
 Advice???? Please......

 Please reply to:
 [e-mail]

 also sent me mail and I'll summarize for you.
thanks.

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 10:45:02 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: CopyDoubler

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> From what
> I understand about CopyDoubler, it compresses the data it sends along
> the bus from one disk to the other (that's how it improves performance:
> same amount of space on the bus will contain more data).

As I understand it from beta testing CopyDoubler, this isn't
quite true. CopyDoubler _can_ compress data during the copy if
you (a) have AutoDoubler installed, and (b) explicitly tell it
to do so. CopyDoubler does not by default compress anything -
it achieves its speed increases in other ways. One of those
ways is, in conjunction with AutoDoubler, copying already
compressed data. So, if I'm copying a 200K file from my SE/30
to my PB100 over the network and that file is compressed to
100K by AutoDoubler, CopyDoubler will _not_ expand the file
during copying and will thus transfer only 100K. In contrast,
since AutoDoubler fools the Finder (and most other non-backup
programs) into seeing data as expanded, the Finder would first
read the file, causing AutoDoubler to expand it, and then the
Finder would copy all 200K of the file over the network, which
is much slower. If AutoDoubler isn't installed then the Finder
just copies 200K of data, which is slower, or if you're using a
driver-level package, the driver-level package expands the disk
blocks as they're read, then the Finder copies 200K. Both are
slower.

Thus, the combination of AutoDoubler and CopyDoubler increases
speeds significantly when you take advantage of everything they
can do. Of course, you can set CopyDoubler to expand files when
copying, as you would usually want on a floppy that you were
sending to someone who didn't have AutoDoubler, and then you'd
see a slowdown, although I believe CopyDoubler reads in the
compressed version, and then writes out the expanded version,
which might save some time over the non-CopyDoubler method.

Fifth Generation just released CopyDoubler 2.0, and suffice it
to say right now that it's way cool. I'll write something about
it for TidBITS in a future issue, but I love it. It's good
enough that it's another reason to use AutoDoubler for me, due
to the close relationship between the two.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 20:00:33 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Eric Keim)
Subject: correction...

  I am writing to follow up on a letter I sent this morning,  in that
as luck would have it..   the day  i send a complaint about not
receiving some software i ordered... it comes in that same day...
it turns out the post office is to blame for it being late as well...
my apologies to circumflex software, although i wonder why their phone
number has been disconnected.

    eric keim

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 03:16:24 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Eudora Questions - scripts and Date field

Frances Blomeley writes:

>The second problem is that Eudora does not send a Date field out to the
>SMTP server, and this prevents me from sending mail to any Internet site
>in the U.K. or elsewhere, via the uk.ac.nsfnet-relay.

Eudora normally puts a date field on the message, but it will refuse
to do so if you have not properly set up your time zone in the Map
control panel. Eudora needs the time zone information to form the
correct date header for SMTP. Eudora assumes the time zone hasn't been
set if the latitude, longitude, and time zone are all zero; therefore,
if you live in a place which is at GMT, make sure to set your latitude
and longitude to non-zero values to get Eudora to use the date field.

pr
--
Pete Resnick - [e-mail]
--
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 4 Jun 1993 07:35:36 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Adriano Lucatello)
Subject: folder-from-hell (A)

[e-mail] (Andy Moiseff) wrote:

>I am running 7.1 on a MacSI and have just detected a folder-from-hell. It
>refuses to be trashed.  The message:"...contains items that are in use..."
>appears when trying to trash it.
>1) I have checked the folder for 'invisibles' but it is completely empty.
>2) I have rebuilt the desktop.
>3) I booted off a system 6.0.7 just in case the system was bad.
>4) I tried deleting with other utilities (MacTools, e.g.) and having the
>folder  delete itself after 'stuffing'.

I had the similar problem on a si and after reading the faq file relevant
to the Folder From Hell maybe I can give the 5th answer which I hope might
solve the problem:

5) Try Norton Utilities 2.0 (they worked after I tried all that there was
to read on the subject)

Adriano

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 10:43:49 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Kahn)
Subject: Gnu zip (.z) file - unzip on Mac? (A)

To get GZIP via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu, you'll need:

    [.MACRO32]UNZIP.EXE
    [.MACRO32.SAVESETS]GZIP-1-1-1.ZIP

Bruce
Standard disclaimers still apply, even where prohibited by law...

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Date: 4 Jun 1993 02:18:26 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Paul Johnson)
Subject: how to print to PS file without header

Anybody,
With system 7.1, how do I print to a PS file, without including
the Apple dictionary header? Under sys 6.0, it was optionF instead of optionK
after the usual optionP. Under 7.1, clicking the PostScript button
on the LaserWriter print panel gives me a PS file with header. I am
sending the PS file over a modem to be printed on  a unix printer
with 'macps'..

Thanks

Paul Johnson

[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 08:37:05 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark Vellek)
Subject: Info-Macs

Guess my prior post was in error (the one where I describe that I hadn't
gotten an Info-Mac in five days). Finally got the latest one on Wednesday
and it was the next volume.

Also, I post to the InterNet at times, simply because I'm spending a lot
more time at work, where I have 'Net access, than at home. Besides, I've
been so busy I even let my UltraMac subscription lapse for two months! Of
course, not that that is going to get any better, since I'm packing up and
moving to Columbia (in Missouri) in about a week to join an Oncology
practice. From now on, all chats will be long distance :-(

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 08:23:14 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark Vellek)
Subject: Info-Mac Vol II

Just noticed a weird problem with my Centris 610 and the new Info-Mac
CD-ROM disk (which is a fantastic resource, I might add): after a system
crash with one of the shareware programs and a manual restart, with the CD
still in the drive, my system would NOT start up. At all. Nothing. Just a
cursor and silence. Eventually had to shut the machine off, do the paper
clip trick with the CD-ROM drive (and I mean, it needs a big, powerful
paper clip) and did a startup. After that no problems, but for some reason
if that disk is in the CD-ROM bay, my machine refuses to start from the
internal HD.

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:44 CST
From: Mark Rank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is it safe to optimize an AppleShare volume?

Can anyone verify if it is safe to run a disk optimizer
against a hard drive being shared with AppleShare 3.0.1?
The techs here at UW-P don't suggest it, becuase of the
fear of the lose of privleges associated with files.
I was wondering if anyone had successfully done such an operation.

Configuration is an FX with an HP 1.6GB drive.

Thanks in advance,
Mark Rank
Computer Tech.
Univ. Wisc. Platteville
Internet  [e-mail]

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Date: Friday, 06 Jun 1993 15:45 CDT
From: Joel Cunningham <[e-mail]>
Subject: Lost color desktop patterns.

Well, after messing around with "Living Desktop", I removed it from my
system. Foolish me, I used the "de-install" option in the menu. Now
my machine (a Mac II) will only display black & white desktop patterns.
That's all that shows in the "general controls" control panel, no
color options, no color patterns. Any ideas on how to get them back?

                  thanks!
                  Joel Cunningham

                  "Push the button, Frank."

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 17:09:03 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LW8 change defaults

I just picked up the new LaserWriter 8.0 driver. There is only one
problem: how to tell it to default print A4 size. The old way was to
use myPageSetup 1.3, but it does not work anymore.
I would appreciate any help in this.
Geert Jan Rademaker

Utrecht University
Bijvoet Center,Mass Spectrometry
P.O. Box 80083,3508 TB  Utrecht, The Netherlands
+31.30.536794; fax:[phone]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 11:56:12 CST
From: Rhett Glover <[e-mail]>
Subject: LW IIg and MASS 45mb HD ?

Hello...

I'm trying to make a MASS Microsystems 45mb Removable cartridge drive work
with
a LaserWriter IIg. The LaserWriter Utility (version 7.4.1) recognizes the
drive, (finds the SCSI device number), but reports that the drive cannot be
initialized, and that I should check power & connections to drive. The LW
manual warns that only apple brand drives should be used with the LW....HA
!!.

Anyone know of a hack/solution for this ?

thanks

Rhett Glover
USAF Air Warfare Center
Eglin AFB Fl 32542

904 882-9341
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 20:39:01 -0800
From: [e-mail] (David R Bosso)
Subject: Macintosh Clock Speeds (refresher)

>IIvx
>PB 180
>PB 165c
>PB Duo 230
>        use  33Mhz 68030

The IIvx is actually 32MHz, 2 times the 16MHz that the rest of the machine
runs at.


-David

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 12:36:50 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MAC TCP/IP Ping source code

Peoples,
    Does anybody have or know about Mac TCP/IP source code which will
impliment ping(ing)???

Thanks,
John Louch
_____________________________________________________________
John Louch; SNAps Engineer   Internet:  [e-mail]
Orion Network Systems Inc.   AppleLink: Louch

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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1993 20:42:10 CDT
From: Chip <[e-mail]>
Subject: MAXA Alert

I'm looking to resolve any & all software clashes in classroom computers.  Is
MAXA
ALERT worthwhile?  Are there alternatives?

Thanks in advance,

Chip

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Date: 4 Jun 93 19:18:21 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Microsoft's Market Flood

    In his Info-Mac 112 article about Times-Two and Stacker, John
Churchill about Microsoft running other companies out of town using examples
such as their built in screen saver for Windows, the True Type fonts, and
on-the-fly compression in MS-DOS 6.0.

    While I am not a hugh fan of Microsoft, especially with their PC
"almost-but-not-quite-maclike" interfaces, I can't say rolling products into
one is really bad.

    Take the Mac shareware market.  I certainly prefer an extension that
does many things to something that does one, tiny, albeit needed, task.  Its
nice that there are programs like Carpetbag that load fonts, load sounds, load
fkeys, etc. instead of three seperate control panels.  I like Apollo because
it not only acts as a file launcher, it sets your screen depth, sound volume,
lets you use the powerkey as a program switcher, opens folders, and
categorizes you applications.

    As far as "Apple does not infringe upon small developers" I think you
need to look back at what you ran with System 6 and now with System 7.
Certainly, programs like Suitcaser aren't as necessary.  We too have true-type
built in, but Adobe is far from being run out of the business.  Apple added
file sharing and networking BUILT IN to System 7 and people still develop
other forms of networking.

    When things are grouped together, I certaily rest easier knowing that
I will have 1) less extensions, control panels, inits to load at startup and
2) less conflict because a program can be developed knowing that EVERYONE
will be running at least this basic configuration and they'd better take that
into account.

    I'm not sure why Stacker left the PC market as you say.  There is more
than one way to compress a file and if DOS uses Stacker's proprietary
compression, then Microsoft is in infringement (or they have an aliance).  If
they aren't using the same method, then Stac can make a better one--that's
competition.

Ken Linger
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 08:45:38 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Thomas R Lawrence)
Subject: My Computer Forgets Folder Settings (Q)

My problem is this:  Occasionally when I restart, a couple of my
folders will have forgotten their settings.  They'll be back to
icon view and will resume the default size and position.  This has
always happened to me under System 7 on my PowerBook 170 and I
believe it happened on a Mac LC as well.  I want to emphasize that
this is not caused by crashing my computer; I shut down and restart
quite normally.

So... Has anyone else experienced this?  Is it normal and just one
of the annoying little things we put up with in System 7?  Or is
it symptomatic of some deep serious problem that's going to rear
its ugly head one day and erase my whole disk?

Thanks,
Thomas R. Lawrence

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 10:04:18 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Info-Mac archive layout [Was: [*] new-look-21.hqx]

Phil Flack <[e-mail]> wrote:
>This is the latest version of NewLook and incorporates some new feature and
>bug fixes.
>
>NewLook now allows you to adjust the window hilite (tinge) colors and then
>Auto Tint the controls for a better color-coorsinated look.
>
>Phil Flack
>
>[Archived as /info-mac/gui/new-look-21.hqx; 40K]

I think we've got a problem here.

Since this is being filed under "gui" in the New And Improved Info-Mac
Filing System (tm), I can't help but wonder:  Is it an application? A
control panel? An extension I'll have to configure with Resedit?

How are we going to handle this?

        tom coradeschi    <+>    [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 93 20:06:40 -0700
From: [e-mail] (DnA...)
Subject: Passive and Active Terminators(A)

Hello...

I would like to thank all who emailed me their input.  The following are two
of the replies which I think will give users a better understanding of what
active and passive terminators are as well as some info regarding the Quad
800's SCSI problem...

Daman
---

First David Lerner's([e-mail]) explanation...
---
We use and sell active terminators at Tekserve here in New York. A normal
terminator has resistors from each data line going up to "term Power" and
down to ground.  It is passive - just resistors.  As the voltage on the
term power SCSI line varies, the termination varies, so it is imprecise.

An active terminator has voltage regulator connected to the term power
wire, and produces a regulated 2.85volts which does not vary with
fluctuations on the term power line.  That 2.85 volts is connected to each
data line through a 100 ohm resistor.

Active terminators don't necessarily have LEDs on them (although the ones
we sell now do). What makes them active is the voltage regulator. The LED
is merely a convenience to show that their is indeed voltage on the term
power line (for instance, a powerbook doesn't provide term power, and in
many Laserwriter IIsc's the fuse providing the term power is blown, so
this LED will quickly help you see why you can't print with a particular
powerbook and LW IISC - if the lights not on, there is no termination,
because there is no term power.


Second, Adam C. Engst's ([e-mail]) message, which also available in
the latest TIdBITS, explaining the Quad 800's SCSI design problems...
---
I got this from the president of Casa Blanca Works. I'll write something
on it for TIdBITS, but I thought you;d like to see it as soon as possible.

cheers ... -Adam

Here's one note from MacHardware:

Message: #70949, S/9  Disks/Storage
Date:    Mon, May 17, 1993 1:23:11 PM
Subject: SCSI info needed
From:    Gary Johansen 72234,2446
To:      All
Reply:   #71121 (1 reply)

I'm having loads of trouble connecting my disk and tape drives together and
getting them to work.

 Devices  Quadra 800 8/230
   Mac IIvx
   1.2 gig toshibia  no int. term.
   600 meg imprimius  no int. term.
   120 meg quantum  int. term.
   600 meg teac tape drive  no int. term.

Here we go.

 Last time if I ran the cables from the IIvx to the tape drive to the toshibia
to the 120 without an external term I could get the teac and the toshibia to
work together, but not the 120 meg.

 The time before I had to go from the MacIIvx to the teac to the 120 to the
 1.2
gig and they all worked {that arrangment wouldn't work last time}.

 I have never been able to mount the 600 and the 1.2 together.

 I have 4 50-50 {all 2'} cables and have interchanged them to see if that made
a difference {it didn't}.

 I have a terminator with an led so I can see that the chain is somewhat
working.

 Most of the time when the drives won't mount SCSI probe tells me that there
 is
a device but no data in use.  Sometimes SCSI probe tells me that that the
device is there but misidentifys the model#, and sometimes the make/model/
capacity are all wrong.

 Is SCSI a science, an art form, or an inexplicable phenomenon that usually
works.

 Is there a deifinitive source of info in this area that can help me with this
problem?

 Thanx for your time.

  Gary Johansen

And here is my response:

Gary,

The Q800 has a poor internal cable design that may be the cause of your
problem. It is the cause of many other people's problems. Apple has gone round
and ropund on this one, first thinking it was the hard drive, then the driver,
then other devices~ Here is the problem as explained to me by someone who was
part of tracking down the problem:

-> One of the rules of SCSI is that the first and last device on a chain be
terminated. (You knew that.)

-> Inside the Q800 is a SCSI ribbon cable with a number of AMP-type SCSI
connectors (the kind that plug into a drive). This is much like those you see
on DOS machines with their multiple floppy drive connectors on one cable.

-> The stock internal drive (which Apple leaves terminated) is on the third
connector.

-> This leaves the last connectors unterminated. And the signals go to
never-never land anmd your drive goes wacky. Thr first connector is terminated
on the logic board.

The real problem is that I do not know of terminators made for the AMP
connectors.

John Catalano
Casa Blanca Works, Inc.
^^^
end of message

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 09:25:28 -0600
From: "Earl Misanchuk"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: PCPC Whereabouts

Does anyone know if PCPC (Personal Computer Peripherals Corp) of Tampa, makers
of NetStream/JetStream backup software/hardware, is still in business? I have
not been able to raise them by phone

ADVthanxANCE for any help you can give.

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 13:13:41 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Mike Burnett)
Subject: Performa Plus Display

How does this monitor compare with Apple's 14" RGB?

Mike Burnett
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 20:51:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Russell Cotton <[e-mail]>
Subject: PICTs in teachtext (ext)

i may have been wrong on that command key combo, it may be option-space.
if you have any problems, try all the keys with space or contact me


**********************
* Russell Cotton     *
* [e-mail]  *
**********************

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 20:44:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Russell Cotton <[e-mail]>
Subject: PICTs in teacktext

there is a way to include PICT resources in teachtext along with text. use
resedit to move the desired PICT resources into the teachtext file. number
their id's starting with the first one at 1000, the second 1001, etc. to
get the PICT resource to show up in the document, type command-space where
the graphic should appear (it will be centered on the page). then, when
you are finished (or just want to see the progress) quit teachtext and
reopen the document. there should be your PICT resource in the text.

BTW: this will not work with PICT files, just PICT resources.

if there is a problem, just contact me at [e-mail]


**********************
* Russell Cotton     *
* [e-mail]  *
**********************

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 10:48:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Seth L. Ness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: postscript problems

hi,
i have two postscript files that give me a NoStringVal error when i try to
print them. their header looks ok, they're postscript 2.0. i don't know if
thats impt but another file that works is postscript 3.0. is their
anything i can do. i've tried two difft printers. i'v tried both macLPR
and apples laserwriter utility and i even tried printing from a vax. one
of the printers was a hewlett packard.



Seth L. Ness                         Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 08:45:39 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Thomas R Lawrence)
Subject: Powerbook 170 Display Problem

>[...] When it comes to the display screen itself Apple gets a little
>nastier since these CANNOT be repaired. They are discarded at a considerable
>cost to Apple. I think you'll get a real fight because if Apple replaces
yours
>because the screen fades they'll probably have to do it to everyone else who
>has the same problem. I amazed that the Apple tech didn't claim you ABUSED
the
>computer. Keep us posted as to how this turns out.
>
>BTW: I understand that the backlighting element in these display screens is
>     only good for about 2 years of use. I don't know how many actual hours
>     of use that translates to though.

Isn't it usually the liquid crystal display panel that's so expensive?
I would think the cold-cathode fluorescent light in the backlight should
be inexpensive (a few hundred dollars at most).  Is this true?

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 93 17:11:10 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rodime drive owners please help.

Citicorp has an insurance program wherein they double your warranty
coverage for items purchased with their credit card.  Trouble is you
must show them what the original warranty covered.  I can't find the
warranty information for my Rodime hard disk.  Do you still have yours?
If so, it would help me a great deal if you would send me a hard copy.
A fax would probably do.  Any documentation about what Rodime covered
with their warranty would help me.  Please respond to me directly as
this is probably not very interesting to other digest readers.  I will
be happy to give you my address or fax number if you can help me.

send help to ===> Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 14:05:40 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: SpeedyFinder7 1.5.4 (A)

Two days ago, I asked a question regarding a problem in SpeedyFinder7
1.5.4.  I received a reply from Brandon Munday with suggested solution.  I
tried, and it seemed to solve the problem .  So the following are my
original question and his reply.

>>I just downloaded SpeedyFinder7 1.5.4.  Everything seems to work very well
>>except that my Mac crashed whenever I chose Get Info from the menu.
>>(However, I could use command-I.)  I tried it on my friend's Mac.  The
>>Finder quited whenenver I chose Get Info, and when the Finder came back,
>>his NowMenu stopped to work.  (NowMenu worked after the Mac was restarted.)
>> Has anyone experienced the same or similar problem?

Brandon Munday:
>Actually, yes.  I sent a message to the creator of SpeedyFinder7 and he
>replied that turning off Alias Resolving should help.  Can't verify said
>solution, as I haven't tried it since I got the message (about 3 weeks ago)
>but I do intend to try again soon, since SF7 looks like a really useful
>program otherwise.  Let me know if you get any more info, and do post a
>message to info-mac with the results, since I think this is a good
>question and deserving of a public answer.  Good luck, and cheers...

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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 93 19:08:52 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Peter Lwin)
Subject: Stacker 1.0 for the Mac

Hi Mac gurus,

I just bought a copy of Stacker for the Mac (driver level compression
software) and installed it in my PB170 4/80. I now have a 150 Mb drive and
a 10Mb drive.
Overall, it is very transparent with acceptable performance. I certainly
like it better than Auto-Doubler. Performance suffers when virtual memory
is used. However, I had no choice since my real memory is limited. I wound
up partitioning the drive into two partitions and and stacking the large
one. It works but I probablu end up having to buy more real memory.

Now the problems! Like a dummy, I also took the opportunity to upgrade to
System 7.1. Not a smart move. I now have a problem that I am not sure who
the culprit is. PowerPoint 3.0 which used to run fine under my old System
7.0.1 is crashing when invoked. Word and Excel seems OK but I have not used
them extensively yet.

Does anyone out there have any experience with similar problems on PP 3.0
with Sys. 7.1? Or have similar problems running Stacker? I am nver too
comfortable with ver 1.0 s/w, but I was desperate for more room on my hard
drive. I had also used PC-DOS version of Stacker for over a year w/o any
problems. Any ideas?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Peter Lwin
[e-mail]
408-437-5195

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 11:44:16 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Building 4 Simulation Group)
Subject: subscribing

TO all,

Help me out here.  I was a subscriber until mymail server (not under my
control) was messed up.  I now have a new mail host and I have tried
to subscribe but I keep geeting a Returned Mail error.

Please help me out on this one.  Reply to

[e-mail]

Thanks!

Oleg Chaikovsky
Sun/Mac Systems Manager
Rockwell Intl - Downey, CA
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 11:38:57 -0400
From: Ed Ver Hoef <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7 Notification

Allow me to turn on a small flame regarding this posting -

>Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 00:38:47 EDT
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: [*] Memory Mapper

>This is yet another utility that shows you a map of your RAM.
>The map is in color, and it shows you graphically where in the
>memory each used block is, allowing you to spot memory
>fragmentation.  If Virtual Memory is turned on, it will show
>which segments are used by the physical RAM and which have
>been paged to the disk.

>Freeware by R. Fronabarger.

>Darin Takemoto
>[e-mail]

>[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/memory-mapper.hqx; 28K]

Note that there is no mention of the need for System 7.  However, after
downloading,
debinhexing, etc., upon reading the associated Read Me file, thatUs exactly
what one
finds.  Please folks, even though itUs quite possible that most people are
running System 7
by now, there are still some of us using various flavors of System 6 for
various reasons.
(I canUt be the only one, can I?)  Take pity on us and allow us to save time
and
bandwidth.  If your submission requires System 7, let us know in your
submission
announcement.  It would be much appreciated.

Ed Ver Hoef

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 11:20 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Tarski and book

Hello there,
 I need informations about the software Tarski's World for
Macintosh and the book "The Language of First-Order Logic
by John Barwise and J. Etchemendy of Center for the
Study of Language and Information, Stanford University.
I don't know the author of the software. Where are the both
available ? and I'll buy both them.

Thank You very much for your kind

Yours Sincerely
Engkan K. Tan
Academia Sinica, Institute of Mathematics
Taipei.

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 93 11:34:40
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Techworks IIsi Ethernet Cards (Q)

Has anyone had problems with TechWorks IIsi Thin/Thick Ethernet cards?

Our setup consists of:
   - Mac IIsi's - System 7.0.1, Techworks E'net cards with FPU
   - File server - Netware 3.11, Netware for Macintosh 3.011,
     Phase II routing (extended network).
   - Cabling - Thin Ethernet, Telegarten (drop cable) type connectors.

Initially the IIsi's had the following problems:
   - Slow operation (4 to 5 minutes to launch an application on the server)
   - Unexpectedly disconnecting from the server.
   - Macs intemittently hanging up when transferring files to and from
     the server.

We have been supplied with new drivers which have cured the speed problem
(15 seconds to launch an application), and the macs no longer disconnect
>From the server. The new ethernet driver is v1.2.2 (dated March '93),
anyone with these problems should contact their dealer for an update.

Macs are, however, still hanging up intermittently when transfering files
to and from the server. We have tried all the obvious things:
   - Installing a minimal system with just the network extension and
     ethernet drivers.
   - Removing the FPU's.
   - Testing the cabling, and doing echo tests from ATCON on the server.

The really damning thing is that we have IIsi's with Farallon EtherMac
cards and IIci's with Techworks and DaynaPort cards on the same network,
and none of them have ever shown any problems.  I suspect that the drivers
are the root cause of the problem.

If anyone has any suggestions, or has experienced similar problems, please
mail me direct - I'll summarise the responses.

Ian Lauwerys, User Support Officer, Computing Services
The Manchester Metropolitan University.
Mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:35:59 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John Jack Repenning)
Subject: Times-Two: worse than you think! (R)

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #112, John Churchill writes:

> Apparently his hard disk had corrupted boot blocks, which I can fix in 30
> seconds with 1st Aid HFS... but not this time.  The entire disk was in a
> compressed format, and might as well have been encrypted, because there was
> no method of backup.
> ...
> MS-DOS 6.0 has built-in on-the-fly compression, making the
> third-party products [like Stacker] impossible to sell.

This is an odd pair of paragraphs.  Wouldn't the MS-DOS built-in
compression eliminate the first problem, by being available or known
to the repair utility?  That would, it seems to me, make it much less
evil.  Perhaps the real evil is that both MicroSoft and Apple waited
so long to create a standard compression scheme, creating the
appearance of a market opportunity where no viable market really
exists.

"Standards are what we agree upon so we can get on with the
interesting stuff."  But a missing standard can look interesting, and
if you squabble over a standard long enough, you might even get
interested in the squabbling itself!  (Let me introduce you to UNIX ...)

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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 93 0:20:56 CEST
From: Carlo Viviani <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vm/Cms, Bitnet & Sumex

Hallo!
does anybody on the net know how to connect to Sumex using a VM/CMS
machine connected to Bitnet?
Thanks a lot,
Carlo
PS: answer to mailbox, please!

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 23:57:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" <[e-mail]>
Subject: White House Letter to the Internet

=======================================================================

            THE WHITE HOUSE

          Office of Presidential Correspondence

______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release                             June 1, 1993


      LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT
      IN ANNOUNCEMENT OF WHITE HOUSE ELECTRONIC MAIL ACCESS




     Dear Friends:

     Part of our commitment to change is to keep the White House
in step with today's changing technology.  As we move ahead into
the twenty-first century, we must have a government that can show
the way and lead by example.  Today, we are pleased to announce
that for the first time in history, the White House will be
connected to you via electronic mail.  Electronic mail will bring
the Presidency and this Administration closer and make it more
accessible to the people.

     The White House will be connected to the Internet as well as
several on-line commercial vendors, thus making us more
accessible and more in touch with people across this country.  We
will not be alone in this venture.  Congress is also getting
involved, and an exciting announcement regarding electronic mail
is expected to come from the House of Representatives tomorrow.

     Various government agencies also will be taking part in the
near future.  Americans Communicating Electronically is a project
developed by several government agencies to coordinate and
improve access to the nation's educational and information assets
and resources.  This will be done through interactive
communications such as electronic mail, and brought to people who
do not have ready access to a computer.

     However, we must be realistic about the limitations and
expectations of the White House electronic mail system.  This
experiment is the first-ever e-mail project done on such a large
scale.  As we work to reinvent government and streamline our
processes, the e-mail project can help to put us on the leading
edge of progress.

     Initially, your e-mail message will be read and receipt
immediately acknowledged.  A careful count will be taken on the
number received as well as the subject of each message.  However,
the White House is not yet capable of sending back a tailored
response via electronic mail.  We are hoping this will happen by
the end of the year.

     A number of response-based programs which allow technology
to help us read your message more effectively, and, eventually
respond to you electronically in a timely fashion will be tried
out as well.  These programs will change periodically as we
experiment with the best way to handle electronic mail from the
public.  Since this has never been tried before, it is important
to allow for some flexibility in the system in these first
stages.  We welcome your suggestions.

     This is an historic moment in the White House and we look
forward to your participation and enthusiasm for this milestone
event.  We eagerly anticipate the day when electronic mail from
the public is an integral and normal part of the White House
communications system.



      President Clinton        Vice President Gore

     [e-mail]      [e-mail]

                  ###

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 11:04:25 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>

[e-mail]
Subject: GetTheirAddress -- Getting Ethernet addresses of remote Macs
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I had heard of and tried the utility called "GetMyAddress", which displays
useful information about your local Mac including the Ethernet card address.

Someone recently got a copy of a program called "GetTheirAddress" by the "ag
group".  This seems to be able to broadcast to other Macs on the network and
get
them to report, amongst other network information, their Ethernet card
addresses.

Unfortunately the version I am trying (1.0b9, dated 1990) seems to trample all
over the EtherTalk of System 7.1 (possibly earlier System versions too?).
After
running and quitting GetTheirAddress the Chooser has lost sight of out
Internet
Router and all other hosts.  Changing the setting in the Network control panel
to LocalTalk and back does NOT cure the problem.  Only a reboot brings things
back to normal.

Can anyone tell me:

*  Is there a newer version of this useful utility (Archie doesn't even show
_this_ version!)

*  Does anyone know the status of it (FreeWare, ShareWare, etc.) as it reached
me with no documentation, and has no information embedded within it.

Potentially it is a VERY useful utility!

                            Mike B-)

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 11:57:54 BST
From: [e-mail]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: tim
From: [e-mail] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: Gnu zip (.z) file - unzip on Mac?
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 10:57:52 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 42

[e-mail] writes:

>can anyone out there tell me of a Mac application (or whatever) that
>can uncompress Gnu .z (little z) files?

I ported gzip to the Mac.
My version can be found at ftp.maths.tcd.ie
in pub/Mac/gzip.hqx .
It's also been put in various archives (not by me).

This version has been much maligned
for its unsophisticated interface
and lack of documentation.

If you say "gzip -h"
(ie double click on gzip and add the "-h" switch
when the command line comes up)
you will get a list of available options.
"gzip -d" decompresses.
Use "gzip -d -a" if the file is ASCII
and was compressed under Unix.

This port was absolutely minimal.
I'm just corresponding with the author of gzip,
and he, amazingly, wants me to make the port
even more basic!

In my opinion and experience,
gzip is pretty good.
It could be the basis of a nice Mac/Unix/DOS compressor.
If anyone wants to add a nice interface, please feel free.
(Someone complained that gzip would not compress gzip --
but as it stands it only compresses the data fork.
The resource fork is lost.
It would have to be combined with MacBinary to save both.)


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [e-mail]
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:29 GMT
From: Daniel Bailey <[e-mail]>

Subject:  Applied Engineering TransWarp 1300 Accelerator Cards for SE

I read in MacWeek (5.24.93) last week about some new SE accelerator cards.
The
following are the prices etc.  Does anyone know much about these or tried
them?
Are they reasonably easy to install?  Any incompatibilities?

25mhz - $199 - with FPU $338
40mhz - $279 - with FPU $428 - with cache $428 - with cache & FPU $577

Thanks for any information.

Daniel S. Bailey - email: [e-mail]

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